New Headers & Footers Feature in Thrive Architect

Do you want to display consistent header and footer content on all your landing pages? With our new Headers & Footers feature in Thrive Architect, you now have an easy way to do so!

Check out this post to discover how this new feature works and how to get the most out of it.

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Headers, Footers & Other Global Elements

Thrive Architect has already had a feature for templates and Symbols for a while. Headers & Footers have a lot in common with Symbols, so you'll find them grouped together in the Thrive Dashboard:

If you aren't familiar with Symbols yet, take a look at this post to get acquainted. In one important aspect, headers and footers are the same as Symbols: when you edit them in one place, they update everywhere.

Templates & Layouts

As usual, we're not only providing you with a new feature, we've also added ready-made templates for you to choose from.

Our starter set of templates. More to be added soon.​​

You can choose and modify any of these templates to suit your needs. Of course, you can also build your own templates, completely from scratch. And because you have all of the features in Thrive Architect at your disposal, you can create any layout and design you can imagine.

Header Features

Headers come with a few specific features that give you more control over how the header behaves on a page.

The first determines whether your header is placed above the content of your page or whether it covers the content. The "cover" option is useful for transparent headers such as this one:

The second determines the scroll behavior of the header. The options are pretty self explanatory. You can make your header stick to the top of the viewport while scrolling or you can make it disappear on scroll-down and appear on scroll-up.

Help Us Make This Feature Even Better

We hope you enjoy this first release of our Headers & Footers feature. We are working on a few updates to this feature already, including more templates. Also, you may have noticed that we stealth-released some feature improvements for the custom menu element a while ago. In our next update, we will enhance this element further and make it easier to use and customize.

We'd love to hear from you: what additions do you want to see, to make the Headers & Footers feature even better? Let us know by leaving a comment below and by voting on the suggestions you'd most like to see implemented.

Shane

Author: Shane Melaugh

Shane Melaugh is a co-founder and the CEO of Thrive Themes. When he isn't plotting new ways to create awesome WordPress themes & plugins, he likes to geek out about camera equipment and medieval swords. He also writes about startups and marketing here.

  • Ion D says:

    Hi Shane. This feature will be very useful for me as I plan to redesign my homepage and some landing pages soon, but how does the menu appear on mobile? It would be good if instead of displaying the menu right away there would be a button to press.

    Also, i would love to have an option to add a search button. Something like what GeneratePress has in their theme.

    • Simon S says:

      yes, a search button would be awesome!

      • Sara M says:

        I’d like a search button too!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your comment, Ion.

      The custom menu automatically switches between a “menu” and a “icon” style at medium or small screen sizes.

      Search: that’s something we already have in progress. :)

    • Tomas says:

      Yes… a search button.

  • wpamcilroy says:

    Love this!

    Nothing to add for now. Just to say keep up the great work!

  • Sumit says:

    this is amazing. I think my biggest problem with thrive architect was mobile navigation. Does this plugin solve that?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      It depends on what you mean, exactly. The new custom menu element has more options for optimizing mobile navigation, for sure.

      • Sumit says:

        I will check out the features. Its been a long time since I checked it out, just because I ended up using default theme’s header and footer and build landing page that way.

        My problem was it was really hard to customize the way mobile navigation would work. The icon itself is ok to certain extent. But the when you click on it and the way it drops down was quite ugly and hard to customize.

        It was also not possible to add click to call phone number element in the mobile navigation. Its achievable in certain themes.

        I think if it is possible to add different icons for mobile menu, effect on that icon when you click on it (like it turning to X, is pretty common effect), and change the way the mobile navigation will drop down, like coming out from the side, dropping down in a style (pushing whole page down, overlaying on the top of the page etc.)

        And finally if we can add that click to call button on to mobile navigation, that would just be cherry on the top.

      • Shane Melaugh says:

        We have improved the customizability of the mobile menu quite a lot and in a few weeks, we have a new release which I think should solve all the issues you’ve described here.

  • Sven Tore I says:

    Looking really, good but I wish we could try the new theme customizer before I do much work converting my regular pages to “landing pages” with header menues and footers. Is the July date 25th pushed?

    • Hanne says:

      Hi Sven, Beta has been released to those who signed up for it. And you’ll be able to use those same headers and footers within the theme so no lost work ;)

      • Kaivalya says:

        Hanne, when the theme will be available for purchase? Any estimate?

      • Hanne says:

        No estimate yet

      • Keith B says:

        Hi Hanne. I’m sure I signed up for the Beta version but have not received any info since. Please advise? Thanks.

      • Hanne says:

        Depending on when you signed up, you might not have been accepted yet.

      • Sara M says:

        Hi Hanne, did all persons who were interested in the Beta version and signed up for it get the release?
        Because I signed up for it and didn’t get any notification.

      • Shane Melaugh says:

        We invited applicants from a first round a while back. Depending on when you signed up, we may not have gotten around to your application yet.

      • Sven Tore I says:

        I missed info about the need to sign up in the promo-video, found in only on the expected day of release, but have not seen any info after the signup :(

      • Hanne says:

        Hi Sven,
        We might do a new batch of approvals over the coming days.

  • Brandon V says:

    How about headers that change depending on whether someone is logged in or not? For example, on a WordPress membership site, it would be nice to have one header that displays for logged-in members, and another that displays for visitors.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for your comment, Brandon! We will take this into consideration for a future release.

  • Alex G says:

    Hi Shane, awesome feature. I’m loving everything you and the team are pushing out. One thing that I’d like to see, either on some of the templates or as an element is pre-formatted social icons. I’ve found that it can be very difficult to get small, sleek social icons, with the proper spacing just using the Architect editor. I think it’s because of the limitations of the minimum distance between column items. I’m sure there’s some kind of workaround for this, but I haven’t taken the time to figure it out, so I just end up removing that type of element. Thanks!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Hi Alex,

      Thank you for your feedback on this! Indeed, there are better ways to construct a small line of social icons, but they aren’t as obvious as using columns.

      We will find a way to make this easier for you.

  • Daniel V says:

    Hello, I think this new feature of the thrive architect is very good. Can I use headers and footers created with this function as header and footer of the whole web, even with blog posts? using same thrive theme?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for your comment, Daniel!

      You can’t apply this to your whole website yet. But we may add this as a future feature.

  • Luke says:

    I haven’t been creating landing pages lately, but looks like an interesting feature. Probably will use it in the future.

  • Christina H says:

    I think the biggest feature that I would like to see is the ability to override the default WordPress header on the whole site without having to edit every single page and convert it to a landing page and then apply the header.

  • Patrice Meze says:

    Hi Shane,

    This feature is a really good idea. It’ll save some time when creating a website.

    However, are you planning on adding template blocks for the various parts of a website? This will rely help make creating whole or part websites very fast.

    Thanks.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      We do plan on building such blocks, yes.

  • Nigel Powell says:

    Can this be used with blog post pages?

    • Dalila Jusic-LaBerge says:

      I don’t see why not. You just need to create your blog and then design it in the TA and paste your content. You can use some of the templates.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Not yet, no. We will see if we can add this functionality in the future.

  • Krisztián Márta says:

    Thanks Shane, really great improvelemnts!

    The next logical step is to replace the header & footer of my template to your header & footer, to give an consistent look to my site.

    So it would be great if I can use the headers, footers and the symbols as a shortcode to put anywhere on my ‘non thrive’ pages.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for your suggestion! We’re looking into this as a feature to add.

  • wpamcilroy says:

    Actually… i do have a suggestion.

    i love this website’s collapse on down-scroll, open on up-scroll header
    https://www.meliorclinics.co.uk/flexible-affordable-payment-plans/

    Could you add something like that?
    (I also love how the quick CTAs are available from the header… but I think that can all already be done in thrive headers).

    Keep up the great work!

    • Nat Green says:

      that’s cool. It’s a partially sticky header.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      This is something we want to build, yes. As you can imagine, it’s a bit complicated to make this available and keep everything customizable. But we’re working on it. :)

  • Cale L says:

    This is a great feature, will be very helpful. I’m assuming this doesn’t fix the issue where the blog doesn’t look like the rest of the site? That seems to be a feature that is coming with the new theme builder or is that something that this feature improves?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      That will be the domain of the theme builder, yes.

  • Elvis P says:

    Hi Shane,
    I’m truly glad that this feature is becoming a reality and I’m confident it will distinguish Thrive Architect even more :)

    Now, I’ve noticed immediately an issue with UTM-8 carfig is not being respected. I have a website in Albanian, so the UTM-8 character set is necessary to be respected. However it is not respecting it in this instance: https://sfidabiznesi.com/email-marketing-mailchimp/ is there an easy solution to this?

    Also, would love to see a bit more control over the secondary menus, which you mentioned in your video is coming as well.

    Many thanks,
    Elvis

    • Elvis P says:

      Has anyone been able to see the issue in my link? In Albanian there are special characters like ‘ç’ and ‘ë’ which need the UTF-8 charset to display correctly. Any suggestions?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for reporting this issue, Elvis! We’ll get that fixed as soon as possible.

  • Peter J says:

    Very powerful new feature! I’d like to be able to add tracking code to the new footer element (required by Kartra).

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Hello Peter,

      Tracking can and should be added on the code level of the page and not associated with a specific visual element of the page. For our landing pages, you can use this feature and for regular posts and pages, you can use a plugin like this one.

  • Christine says:

    Couldn’t tell from the video but can you bring in an existing WordPress menu instead of building one from scratch? Also in the footer can we have a Copyright element that brings in the year shortcode?

    • Chris P says:

      “Also in the footer can we have a Copyright element that brings in the year shortcode?” – Great idea!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, you can use a WordPress menu. When you insert a menu element, you can choose between a custom menu (as shown in the video) or any of your already saved wp menus.

    • Tom Enns says:

      This is a great question. I found out how to do this once and it took me a full 3 days to figure it out again. It is possible to use the existing WP menu. In the ‘Thrive Dashboard’ window, locate Theme square icon you are using. Click on the upper right menu (three dots), click ‘page templates’ and then choose the pages you want, and it will publish those pages with the existing WP menus. While this info is in the forums or help areas, it’s crazy hard to find.

  • It’s beautiful. I wonder if I can create different pages (I mean static pages of my website that are always there (not just sales landing pages) I’m not sure if by landing page you mean all the pages or just those sales landing pages?

    But my idea is that certain pages could have a custom menu. This is especially relevant if I have more than one niche. For instance, I can optimize a landing page for single women clients and have the header with the menu that’s relevant only to them.

    Similarly, I can have a landing page for teen girl services and have a menu that’s only relevant to their parents and them. Would this override the menu of the theme?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback! We are looking at what we can do to create targeting/filtering options, so you can display different headers on different pages.

      Right now, you can create multiple headers and assign them to specific landing pages. There’s no way to target specific headers to specific content, sitewide, though.

  • Nelson T says:

    Great, but why those, like many other features (ex: global typography) is only available for landing pages? Why can’t we create, for example, a header for the entire site (overwriting the theme’s one) like Elementor for example does? I prefer TA over it and you are constantly adding more “widgets/elements” to it that are better, but that’s the only drawback… If I want a specific header that my theme can’t create, I have two choices:
    1- change theme;
    2- turn all my pages to landing pages to be able to use TA’s header throughout the site…

    That would be nice if, like Elementor, we could create a header for the entire site (i.e. kind of theme builder)…

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback, Nelson.

      The main reason it’s only on landing pages right now is because this way, we could already release a workable version of this feature. Adding options for making it site-wide is planned, but will take some more time to complete.

      • Marion says:

        Hi Shane,

        I agree with Nelson.

        I can imagine that very few people use landing pages for their entire website. At the moment I prefer to work from scratch and use only single elements of landing pages.

        Why I don’t create a complete website consisting of the landing page templates has to do with the mobile appearance of the menu.

        The current mobile menu is far from looking nice – especially if the website has many subpages.

        Custom CSS gives me a lot more possibilities to design the menu for mobile devices.

        For me Thrivethemes will be perfect if we could design the header and footer for all pages – not only for landing pages.

        When will you launch a functional and nice drop-down menu for tablet and smartphone?

        But I don’t just want to bitch. You guys are doing a great job!

        Cheers,
        Marion

      • Shane Melaugh says:

        Thank you for your feedback!

        We are working on making headers and footers more widely available. We’ve also been working on improvements for the menu element, which will be included in our next release.

  • customerperfection says:

    This is a nice addition. Is there going to be any improvements to the inline editor in tablet mode? It always disappears when I get to the bottom of my site in tablet mode. I submitted it to support and was told to shrink my screen as the fix to this problem. Smh. No

  • Great addition. I’d like to be able to customize the header when using it with a series of posts so that I could add an item like ‘NEXT’ that would like to the next in a series of articles. I wouldn’t want it to go throughout all the posts – only those that include a series of articles. Maybe a place to click ‘only this time’? or ‘only this header’?

  • Javier says:

    Nice feature. What happens if I implement a header in a page, and the site already has a global header from the site theme. Does this supersede the theme header?
    Another comment is about the term “landing page” used extensively in your video. Isn’t a landing page supposed to not have any distractions? Why would you add a header to a landing page and violate this principle? Why not to say “web page” instead of “landing page”?

    • Juha S says:

      You can have different header on every page.

      About the landing page…If the header has only a call-to-action that you want to your visitor to do, I think it might work pretty well. If not sure, just a/b test it :)

    • mohammad i says:

      there is certain landing page that needs with header on it. For instance, when using google ads, a landing page needs to have a header. Google likes it..

      this is a great feature to have for me..

    • Ahrale S says:

      Many themes offer option to hide the built in header on specific pages using just a check box. If not, you can use a simple CSS code to do that… usually something like: .header{display:none;}

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for your questions, Javier!

      Right now, we don’t have a feature for replacing your theme header with Thrive Architect headers yet. The feature can only be used on landing pages at the moment.

      The idea for a landing page is usually to keep distractions to a minimum, yes. Adding a header with minimal navigation or adding a footer with navigation can help for certain cases, like making a page AdWords compliant, for example.

      • Javier says:

        Shane, still not sure why you say “landing page” for everything. Even your answer says “landing pages” again. It seems that the term is over-used to the point that it’s confusing now. Wouldn’t it be better to say “web pages”, either landing or not?

        From your answer it seems that this feature doesn’t apply to a home page, nor to a sales page, nor to an about page, nor to a thank you page, nor to a contact page, etc. It applies ONLY to a landing page, which by the way is not supposed to have any distractions.

      • Shane Melaugh says:

        A landing page is any page specifically constructed to have visitors land on and move them to the next step in a conversion process. That includes lead generation pages, sales pages and so on, but can also include all kinds of other pages. It depends on your business and conversion funnel. There are other pages that are distinctly not landing pages such as a category page, navigation page, search results page etc.

        A page including “distractions” doesn’t disqualify it from being a landing page. It’s about the purpose of the page more than about whether it has links on it or not.

  • Lars says:

    Another great improvement. Thanks.

    One suggestion regarding the footer. Due to design I mostly use 2 footers right now. One as a major footer including address, logo etc and a 2nd mini footer at the very bottom, which only contains links ot legal pages.

    They are currently 2 separate background sections (with 2 different background colours). What would be even more comfortable would be a footer with a kind of split like having 2 background sections in 1.

    Regarding the upcoming improvement of the custom menue: Currently when you have styled your menu items and then add a new page this page’s new menue item does not come up in the identical design like the previously existing menu items. So you have to adpat it manually.

    However, the most important improvement of the custom menue for website users would be the feature, which allows to highlight/mark the current (selected) page, i.e. if a page of the custom menue is chosen/active, it should be highlighted as being active in the menue (e.g. by another colour or by being underlined etc.). In other words the custom menue does not come with good orientation for the user in terms of telling them where they are right now.

    Thanks.

    Lars

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback, Lars!

      You can add multiple background sections into the footer (or the header) already. :)

      And we will create a “current page” highlight in a future release as well.

  • Derek says:

    Allow logo to show half on half off header bar, be able to customize shape of headers and to place the header anywhere on the page, ie below a hero image or video

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      You can already place the logo partially outside the header. You can use negative margins to accomplish this.

      Regarding the header placement, we’ll see what we can do.

  • Gary W says:

    I am a newer user of Thrive themes. I have been enjoying everything that I have seen. Yes some little work arounds but nothing that stops anyone in their tracks. This is very helpful addition. I am going to the test page before converting Global headers. The versatility of static, sticky and up-down scrolling of the header is a very nice feature. Thanks for all the great updates and the tech talks. Looking forward to a couple other features you mentioned.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your comment, Gary!

  • Jason S says:

    Here’s a thought: I’m pretty new to wordpress design and Thrive has been an important tool for me. Right now I am working on adding a page and updating my theme navigation and I have a need to categorize pulldown elements – so there is a top level “Solutions” pulldown that I want to add a subcategory of “Industry Verticals” with some solution sub elements under that category. So, essentially I need three levels including the top element. Thanks for this feature! Looking forward to seeing it roll out across the board.

  • EL Mehdi Zefzoufi says:

    This is a very good feature. I have been waiting for such a thing for long time. I have a question. Does it apply also to posts? or only pages?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Currently, only to landing pages. We are working to extend the feature with more options though.

  • Diego says:

    Awesome! thank!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Glad you like this new feature, Diego!

  • Lloyd Adams says:

    Nice addition to an already great plugin. Thanks for doing that.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you, Lloyd!

  • Rod Hamilton says:

    Shane, every single thing you and your team create is Awesome. I would love to buy all of it one day.
    Have you thought of making a better TinyMCE editor as WordPress has the crappiest editor that drives me nuts or is that in of one of your products already?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Hello Rod,

      We use Thrive Architect for everything. Pages, landing pages, blog posts etc.

      You can avoid TinyMCE completely by using Thrive Architect. :)

      • Rod says:

        Hi Shane, WordPress just updated and offered me a plugin called Gutenberg.
        Wow! so much better for editing posts and pages.
        Still not as good as your stuff but at least they are trying. We have content blocks now that we can work on individually.

  • pablo says:

    Hi Shane, good feature!
    is possible create template single post wordpress?
    and create archive post layout with thrive archiet?

    tanks for great job!

  • Jeferson Go says:

    Congratulations Shane for the excellent work, I hope it keeps growing, making ThriveThemes bigger every day.

    From what I saw in the video, will it be possible to create the header links in the Architect’s own editor, that is, you do not have to create the menus in the wordpress backend? If so, it is sensational.

    I hope one day it will be possible to create any page, such as About, Home, 404, among others, on the Architect front end, without having to use the wordpress backend.

    Cheers.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, that’s correct. You can still use menus that you created in the WordPress backend, but you don’t have to. You can construct your menus directly in the editor.

      Regarding the other pages: this will be possible once we have the new theme builder. With it, you’ll be able to visually edit all your pages, including blog, 404, search results and so on.

  • Ryan C says:

    Is this available? It’s not an option on my page set up.

  • Andre says:

    Plans for customisable mega menus in the future?

    Looking forward to the next release.
    Andre

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      We do have a plan for this, yes. Perhaps we can also integrate with some existing solutions for mega menus.

  • Ryan C says:

    Disregard. I found it in global elements after finishing the video. It wasn’t showing up on my home or content pages, which I thought was odd.

  • Chris P says:

    I think what would be fantastic is the ability to manipulate the header and footer within the theme itself. I’m finding that I have to do a lot of CSS with a separate plugin in order to achieve what I want to achieve.

    Also, when I use landing pages to create the look I desire, I’m finding that when the page loads it’s kinda messy before the user sees the final result, as if the theme loads first, then the landing page loads over top of it. To overcome this I have to use a page loader plugin which results in an even heavier site and longer load time. I would rather not use landing pages because of this.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for your comment, Chris!

      Regarding the loading issue you describe: could this be related to the theme you’re using? Have you tested this with a different theme or on a different site, to see if the problem persists?

  • andrew says:

    Let’s say I’ve uploaded an ebook cover on the landing page, can I edit all the features of the ebook cover right there on the front end?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Depends on how you created the ebook cover. If you created it in the editor, then yes, you can edit it right on the page.

  • Sumit Kumar says:

    when is the official release date for new theme?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      We don’t have a public release date yet.

  • Stretch says:

    Big time saver. Great work. Thank you.

  • Irena Stopar says:

    Nice new feature. On my websites, I already started using symbols to save my headers and footers as a symbols. They are a huge time-saver!

    I love what you do and most of the templates are great help. But … sometimes I spend more time to customize your templates than to create mine. On some of your templates I noticed there’s no way to change some colors (like display reviews templates) or even add a new customizable template. I would like to see fully customizable templates.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback, Irena. We will take this into consideration and try to make our templates more approachable.

  • Christopher B says:

    Great innovation. Header menu, mouse over – unable to change background colour. I suspect this might come with theme editor.

    Footer, would be nice to have the same feature as theme template for automatically inserting copy right organisational name. An automated way to add social icons would be good.

    I’m sure the features I’ve mentioned will come with the next release.

  • Brad H says:

    Was playing with the header builder yesterday. Didn’t see a click to call function? Had to hard code it in. That would be handy if it worked responsive too please.

    Cheers :-)

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Hi Brad,

      You can create a click-to-call item by simply creating the tel: link in the URL field of the menu item.

  • Thomas says:

    I’d need two-line menus.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      That’s already possible. :)
      I’ll make a tutorial showing how. But basically, it’s just like you’d build such a layout in Thrive Architect. You can build whatever you want, in your header and footer areas. :)

  • Victoria H says:

    The main things for me would be, as you’ve already mentioned, the ability to take the custom header site-wide, but also to have more control over the look of mobile menus.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback, Victoria!

  • Dan A says:

    Great stuff, just what I needed. Quick question – how do I actually apply my new header and footer globally across my site?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Hello Dan,

      This isn’t possible yet with the current version of the feature.

  • satarii rexson says:

    Good day! I like the feature of Thrive Themes headers and footers, the vertical scrolling behaviour of the header is really cool for an interactive website.

  • Eric says:

    Hi

    I didn’t use this tool yet but find it very interesting for those who want provide a way to come back in the rest of the site when they are on a landing page or for those who won’t buy the new theme builder.

    It would be interesting to have a login tool to add. This could be linked to the wordpress login option or directly to a Thrive Apprentice course.

    A search bar is a great tool too. It is a way to make it directly visible at the top of any view and particulary of the mobile view.
    This could be a tool to use anywhere we want in Thrive Architect too.

    Megamenu menu for ecom sites is a need to give the ability to reach products from the landing page which could be a coupon offer for example (woocommerce and others)

    Phone trigger is a good idea but should be set anywhere in Thrive Architect too.

    Giving the ability to have many customizable ways to show menus on mobile is a need if it doesn’t exist.
    We may want to let a directly visible list of menu items or trigger them with a designed button.

    A greater set of customizable contact icons to fit them with the menu or the footer would be very usefull.
    Giving them the ability to trigger mail, phone, social network will be usefull.

    Thanks to the Thrive Team who work every day for us and improve those incredible tools everyday.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your suggestions!

  • David K says:

    An interesting update.
    All our sites have blogs and custom post types built out with Toolset.

    Right now we’re using a mix of php templates for WP archives and taxonomies and pages built in TA.

    The big issue we have with the current feature is consistency.
    We need consistent headers across all WP archives and taxonomies as well as pages.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback, David!

  • Mathew says:

    Hi!

    Great functions. Please apply a function that is possible to apply symbols to the menue items.

  • Lewis E says:

    Looks great! I think my comment is more a question than a suggestion. Where is all this going? Is there a strategy that you have in mind? By that I mean, we have websites built in the traditional way with TA, we have themes that are now being made available to build as you want, and we have landing pages that seem to be all you talk about these days and that are looking more and more like websites. Are we talking about moving towards building entire websites out of landing pages with DIY themes or landing page templates…. or what? Can you do something on the decision-making processes I should employ when I start working with a new client, so I can plan ahead?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      That’s a very good question, thanks for bringing this up.

      We’re working on the theme builder, which will become the core product for a certain type of website. That is to say: if you have a website that is continuously growing, where new pages and blog posts are frequently added, the theme is the right basis for it. With the theme, you define the basic templates that are shared among your pages and blog posts and so on.

      The headers & footers feature will be shared between Thrive Architect and the theme. That means any header or footer you build now will be available for your theme as well.

      Landing pages have a different use case. Landing pages are ideal for mini sites, where you don’t have and don’t plan to have a blog, blog posts, ever more pages and so on. Any site that has between 1-5 pages doesn’t really need a theme. The second and more “traditional” use case of a landing page is as the “exception”. It’s a page that isn’t enslaved to your theme’s styles and templates and that makes it ideal for testing. If you want to test a new design, it’s better to do it on a landing page, before rolling out a change to your whole site. If you have an ad campaign and you want to create a landing page that matches the style and message of that campaign, a landing page is the way to do it. A landing page is independent of your theme, which means you can change and test it without messing up your entire site’s styles.

      In short, the theme is for your “regular” content and the landing pages are for testing, rapid iteration and a stronger conversion focus.

      • Lewis E says:

        Many thanks, Shane. This is really helpful.

  • Joe H says:

    This is a great addition for landing pages.
    I have however noticed when editing the header that it didn’t always seem to save the first time round.
    I would like to see the following:
    1. The possibility to align the secondary menu items.
    2. to be able to control the width of the secondary dropdown menu block.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your suggestions, Joe!

  • richard w says:

    is it possible to move the header down a bit so that an image could be placed at the top…….the navigation menu would not be at the top but below some image or text

    thanks

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      We’ll see what we can do for this. :)

  • Ahrale S says:

    Thanks as always.
    After playing around with it on 2 of my sites, I can indicate a problem I had, as well as saying I would be happy to see the following features added:
    1. Logic (similar to the one exist on your widgets plugin) on both Header & Footer options, so they will be able to be applied or excluded on specific pages/posts/categories & also for specific user roles & logged/non-logged in users or all site. This should be applied for both Header & Footer.
    2. Add to Footer options, same as header the option to be sticky or sticky on scroll.
    3. An option to add an advanced (filterable) search element.
    4. An option to use saved Headers/Footers as elements from Symbols & Templates.

    The issue I had:
    1. While choosing my current upper menu for Hebrew website it shows signs instead of letters (Does in not support UTF-8?).

    Thanks & have fun

    • Arte R says:

      Agree with 1. Logic (similar to the one exist on your widgets plugin) on both Header & Footer options, so they will be able to be applied or excluded on specific pages/posts/categories & also for specific user roles & logged/non-logged in users or all site.
      I currently use this feature (in another theme) to customize the header for logged in members.

      • I second the logic based for the menus so they can be used in blog posts not created with TA. I have hundreds of posts on my site that are not styled in TA and I love the widget feature by category. Would love the ability to override the themes menu based on categories etc. Thank you for the opportunity to give feedback, Shane.

      • Shane Melaugh says:

        Thanks for your feedback, Laura!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback, Ahrale!

      1. This is something we’re planning already. We will have this in the theme builder for sure and maybe also for non-theme users.

      2. A sticky footer? Can you show me a use case for this? I can’t quite picture how you’d want to use this.

      3. I don’t know about advanced, but we are working on a search element.

      4. I’m not sure what you mean by this one.

      • Ahrale S says:

        Thanks Shane,

        1. Great to know conditional logic is on plan.

        2. Sticky footer can be used to be as an Ad or CTA, s you have on this page a CTA to check out the Fully Customizable Pricing Tables With Toggle Switch.

        3. Advanced search means, that search uses Ajax, showing optional results, option to choose that search click opens a full page light-box, option to filter search for specific post types, etc.

        4. I meant that I will be happy to be able to have the option to use a header that I created anywhere on site & not necessarily on landing page (but also on posts & regular pages) instead or in addition to the theme header.

        Thanks again

  • MamaRed says:

    I love where this is going and what you’re doing with the new theme options. The new theme would help with one situation because I have a client who wants a different look and feel for her blog and it’s a different WordPress install (which is a pain to maintain).

    Side Note: I do have a background in working with uber techies and, for some reason, the use of the term “symbols” isn’t helping me remember that those are reusable elements. I’m used to terms like variables or elements. I know I read why you called them symbols but they seem to me like they’re global elements just like the headers and footers.

    Blessings
    MamaRed

  • Tal says:

    How would I use the Thrive themes along with my existing header and footer ? The only solution I see now is to grab parts of the template as symbols and try to rebuild it.

  • Carl says:

    Can you improve the custom menu section to allow the use of menus created in WP Admin > Appearance > Menus ?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      That’s already available. :)

  • John says:

    Fantastic adds to an already great product. Suggestions (these may already be doable): Flexibility in positioning the logo, add an optin to header/footer, prebuilt items for footer like privacy policy, copyright…

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      You can place the logo absolutely anywhere you want. :)

  • richard w says:

    can we use this feature now? I would like to add the header to an active page

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, it’s in the latest version of Thrive Architect.

  • Sofia R says:

    I love the new feature but when I tried to create a header or footer I received an error. parsererror (200) Do you know what causes this or do I have to submit a support ticket?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, please submit a support request about this. Thanks.

  • Nantus B says:

    Hi Team

    Love this new addition! It has something I’ve been waiting for.
    It is easy to see how this is a step towards full integration into the new theme.

    What I would like to see is more industry best templates, particularly for footers. There seems to be a trend where top menus are designed with fewer elements, focusing on only the most essential navigation.

    The footer, however, is more of a summary or quick access area of everything the site has to offer and often justifies a more complete and creative design by itself. This includes navigation and CTA options.

    A great footer always makes any site look very professional.

    So, more templates would be great to spawn ideas and also save some time!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your comment, Nantus.

      I think you’re absolutely right about the trend of simpler main menus and more navigation in the footer. We will be building more templates along those lines as well.

  • Jeferson Go says:

    Hi Shane,

    Will not I need to use the wordpress “Menu” to create the menu links?

    Can we fully create the menu in the Architect editor?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, you can create the menu entirely from within Thrive Architect. You can also use the WordPress menus if you prefer, but those are a bit more limited in styling possibilities, due to technical constraints.

      • Jeferson Go says:

        Great, this is very good, how much less use wordpress to create and the more we use the Architect to create from it, the better

        it would be nice that in the future you could create pages in Thrive Architect and change them within the editor itself

  • Sophie A says:

    Ability to put social links in the header would be great. Also to have a static banner image as part of the header so it shows up on all pages/posts.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback on this feature, Sophie!

  • Oliver Scheiber says:

    Thanks for another awesome feature!

    It would be great if could get a smooth scrolling feature, so that when the user klicks a menu item it scrolls smoothly to a specific section.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for the suggestion, Oliver.

  • Andrew says:

    This is brilliant. I’ve been wanting a way of removing the header menu from my home page so that there is only a single action above the fold. And I’ve wanted a way of creating a full menu in the footer of the home page.
    Thanks!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Glad you like it, Andrew!

  • Bryce M says:

    I’d like to see supporting elements such as customizable click-to-calls, social icons, shopping carts, triggered address (i.e. click the element to launch your default map app with the location pre-loaded), guest cards (i.e. extended contact forms typically triggered in a lightbox), search field, copyright links, etc.

    I’m sure you’ve already thought through main things like the logo, menu items, etc. but I’d really like to see more of the less mentioned things that really make every piece of the website great for both local and online businesses.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your suggestions, Bryce! Some of these are already in progress, yes. :)

  • Steven B says:

    This is excellent, will you be adding them to themes? I would also like to see a widget editor so I have all of the thrive architect benefits added to builing content in widgets. Thanks for all the new changes, they are excellent.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for your comment, Steven!

      We are planning to bring this to themes and add a “sitewide” feature for the headers and footers.

  • Moshe says:

    It would be nice to conditionally set where headers and footers show up (similar to how it works in Elementor Pro 2.0). For instance, I use Header A as the main header for the site, Header B on this set of landing pages, etc.

    I very much like how you can edit the header/footer on any page.

    In terms of the menu — does that sync with the wordpress menu system? If not, I think it should.

    Mega Menus would be a nice feature at some point.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for the suggestions!

      The menu can either sync with one of your WordPress menus, or you can construct one from scratch. It’s up to you. :)

  • Rey A says:

    If you are talking about landing pages, the purpose of a landing page is to do one thing, get the user to click the button. I have found if there are distractions like the header where the user has a choice then the user might get distracted from what you are trying to accomplish and might click on the header menu instead of the button you want them to click on. Just my take. But I can see where it would be useful on a webpage or blog pages.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for your comment, Rey!

      In most cases, I agree with you. However, adding a header or footer with some navigation can be what’s needed to make a landing page AdWords compliant, for example.

  • Aaron H says:

    It would be good if it could work with a plugin like IF Menu which is really powerful in the free version and only $15 for the pro version rather than creating all of the features yourself.

    My website visitors see different menu options based on being logged in or not; what products they’ve purchased; what website they came from and other factors.

    This is great for a basic static menu setup but does not look like it would work with my menu setup that changes.

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/if-menu/

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for the suggestion, Aaron!

      I believe this will already work as long as you choose a WordPress menu as your source. I haven’t tested it yet, though.

  • Veerle W says:

    Wow!! I absolutely LOVE this!! thank you thank you thank you.
    This is indeed something I wished for.
    Only saw your video. Will start working with this feature ASAP and let you know of any ideas I might have.
    I SO appreciate this. Had some difficulties lately and was starting to feel a bit heavy about my attempt to create a website on my own. But now… yeah… feel lighter again. I will make this work. Even if I have to start from scratch again.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your comment, Veerle! I’m glad to see you like this feature. :)

  • Kyle M says:

    My one suggestion, which may be on the cards anyway, is to have a highlighted menu item on the header.

    Some of the ThriveThemes themes have the option of highlighting a menu item, essentially turning it into a button. Making that option work on the new headers would be great!

    • Christina H says:

      This was actually easily doable and with more options than the highlighting had. The menu items work the same way the styled lists do. You can click on the one that you want to highlight, and then click on the lock to unlock it. Then you can edit it however you’d like – change the background, font color, hover, etc.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      As Christina mentions, this is already possible. In our next update, we’ll also have some pre-made templates you can choose from, some of which will already have this “menu item as a button” kind of look. That way, you don’t have to construct the highlight effect yourself.

  • Steve P says:

    For the footer, is there a way to have the copyright be current year instead of manually needing to change it every year. E.G. {current year} instead of 2018 and needing to change it to 2019 in January.

  • Brian Ward says:

    Can we add special characters such as copyright and trademark?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, you can add such characters. You can copy them and paste them into the text you’re writing.

      • Brian Ward says:

        Tganks Shane. I would consider tgat a workaround- any chance special characters will be added to tge editor?

  • ruben says:

    It is amazing. It is perfect to be more productive and get good results easier than another ways.

    I imagine that you can select if you want that appears in all pages or only in some of them, really?

    Thanks

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Hi Ruben,

      We don’t have a feature for displaying the headers sitewide yet. But we’re working on that as well.

  • Mark W says:

    Fantastic addition and a brilliant concept

    It seems that the Header element is always top of the page and other elements cannot be added above it. I understand it’s a Header and thus the position but on some sites I like to have a “ribbon” above the menu for say contact details and/or social media buttons. Is it possible to make this a possibility?

    NOTE I tried to delete a Header from the page to try the above out and after the Header itself is deleted the element stays on the page (waiting for the required header to be selected) and cannot be deleted. – Should I submit a support ticket re this?

    Although the Headers can of course be built by users, I think for many new users it would be really helpful to have templates with social media buttons (that still look good on mobile devices etc (sometimes challenging to build) and maybe Click To Call phone number elements.

    Again, easy to do as a user, but a footer template with autoupdating copyright year

    Ready for the bleat?

    1) As I’ve been chuntering on about for past 2 weeks (re Custom Menus), this new Header element should inherit the styling of any customised menu – not revert to default whenever a new page (or menu item) is added.

    for example, having styled the Header and thus menu to match the site (font, font size, colour) whenever a new item is added to the menu by default it should inherit the style not the default. Yes, it is easy enough to update the menu but this shouldn’t be necessary – and it can easily be forgotten

    2) From a user perspective I also find it irritating that I have to save the Header (or indeed any Symbol that I update) in an non-intuitive place – on the canvas / element itself far right in case of menus – BEFORE I can save the page. I appreciate this may just be getting used to it but for weeks I’ve been using symbols and every time I forget they need to be saved separately first. More my observation but as I’ve been using Thrive for years and still miss it I’m sure others will too.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your detailed feedback, Mark!

      Both the issues you raised are in progress. For the second one, we are working on a new “edit mode” interface that will hopefully be more intuitive.

      • Mark W says:

        Excellent – thanks Shane

  • John Walker says:

    Nice updates. Where can I report a bug?

    • John Walker says:

      Im having an issue with the footer. When I’m logged into wordpress the footer is all centered correctly. However when I log out of wordpress the footer floats to the left. Is anyone else experiencing this?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      This looks like it’s probably a bug that’s specific to your setup. Can you open a support ticket for this, please?

  • Russell L says:

    Brilliant, why anyone would use any other tool is beyond me.
    How is this going to interact with or replace/add to the theme builder?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you, Russell!

      This feature is a shared feature with the theme builder. So, in the theme, you’ll get the same headers, same functionality etc.

  • Erik Immerkaer says:

    Great video and feauture. :)

    In the video you show us how to change the background opacity. But will a save (only color/opacity change) effect all landingpages with that header? In the video exampel a background opacity change with demand a text color change. But that change maybe “crash” the color design on the other landingpages.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, if you change the opacity of the header, that will apply everywhere.

      You have to have consistency in design among all the pages that use the same header, if you use transparency. For example, you’d create one header that applies to all pages with a dark background. And if a page doesn’t have a dark background, you’d have to apply a different header to it.

  • Martin says:

    Option to create a sticky menu (header) would be great. I was just looking into if I can create this with Thrive Architect.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      That’s already possible! :)

  • John says:

    This innovation and consistent improvement is why Thrive is BY FAR the best landing page builder on the market. It’s not even fucking close. I personally want to thank your team for the great work and I have happily referred you to many others and will continue to do so. Seriously, thank you. You’ve helped me grow my agency faster.

    Header wish list (sorry if some of these are already possible):

    1. Add buttons, with anchor abilities and smooth scroll when clicked
    2. Ability to add a second menu on top/bottom of the primary. Especially helpful on mobile.
    3. Mobile design that differs from desktop (assuming this is already possible)
    4. Social icons
    5. Easy arranging of the menu itself (logo in the middle, etc)

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      1. We don’t have smooth scrolling yet, but you can already do the one-page-menu thing.

      2. You can already do this.

      3. Also, already possible. :)

      4. Also possible, but admittedly not super easy to do yet.

      5. Also already possible. To have the logo in the middle, you need to create 2 menus. One for the left and one for the right side of the logo.

  • Larry says:

    Looks good to me. It is obvious you are dedicated to making Thrive products the best. I’m all for that! Thank you for focusing on integrity.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you, Larry!

  • Leander says:

    I user Hero Menu – this is a benchmark for you :)

  • Kathleen S says:

    The background of the header is a different color white than the no background white. And, it doesn’t stretch all the way across the page. How can I fix this? Thanks.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Please open a support ticket, so our team can look into this.

  • Kathleen S says:

    Also, I would like to decrease the height of the header but doesn’t appear that I can. It is already at the minimum.

  • Harry H says:

    It would be great if the header & footer features were also applicable to blog posts. Especially for 1 site where I use Adsense for monetization, it would great to display ads in the footer.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thanks for your feedback, Harry! I’ve added this to our to-do list.

  • Harry H says:

    On a side note: I forgot to check the box for “Notify me when someone replies to my comment” in my previous comment. Is there a way to correct this mistake, or am I doomed to check this page until eternity to see if there are new comments or not?

  • Ken L says:

    Great start for this feature – been wait a while for this. One question… is there (or will there be soon) a way to define styles for the sticky state? I.e. I may want a transparent background on default state, but then switch to a white background when I start to scroll – almost identical to the way the Pressive theme works by default. Thanks!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, we have this on our to-do list. :)

  • Shakya K says:

    This is really amazing Shane, huge thanks for putting it in.

    In terms of where next to make it EVEN better:
    * does it synchronise with WP menu? (i.e. if you change the WP menu, does the Thrive header change?)
    * I’d love to have the option to have the header shrink on scroll (so it’s big at first but turns into a little ribbon at the top as you scroll down)

    Thanks again!

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Yes, if you choose a wp menu as the source, it will update whenever you make changes to that menu.

      The shrink on scroll thing is technically quite difficult to do well, but we’re working on it.

  • Tal Davidson says:

    The Header feature have a lot of potential. Can it be used for an above-header opt in form?
    How can a button be added to make it collabsible?

    Can the header be shown only to non-logged-in users?
    A more general question – does Thrive Architect provide the same flexibility to create opt-in forms as Thrive Leds, or would I need to be buying Thrive Leads for that?
    One things I see is that on Architect, I need to would need to configure a pop-up on any page I’d want to, while in Leads I assume you can add it globally.
    Please share your insights on designing opt ins using Architect alone va. Leads + Architect.

  • paulinelcaruana says:

    I love this new feature. On my to-do list is to go onto all my landing pages and ensure the formatting consistency of the header so this is going to save me a lot of time. Thanks Thrive Themes – you’ve done it again :-)

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you! Glad you like this new feature. :)

  • Ryan J says:

    Okay this one might be a bit ambitious but since we’re giving you our wishlist… here it is.

    I’d really like the ability to put a “Sign Up” or “Add to Cart” button into a global header and have it dynamically detect the product within the page to add.

    ????

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      That’s a cool idea. We can do something like this within our theme. Probably.

      I’ll have to ask the developers about it.

  • Fuad says:

    This is an awesome feature! Already put it to good use. I do have one question/comment though. I have a menu where I have menu items and sub-menu items. Sub menu items don’t seem to work. Meaning when I hover over the main menu item, it does not drop down to reveal the sub menu items. just wondering if that’s a bug or a functionality issue.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      That sounds like a bug. Please open a support ticket about this.

  • EL Mehdi Zefzoufi says:

    I have been struggling to save a header that I worked on… each time I click save It gives me error 500 “An internal server error has occured.” Can you help me please

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      I’m sorry to hear you’re experiencing technical issues with the feature. Please open a support ticket so that our team can investigate this issue.

  • MARTIN K says:

    Hi Shane, I really like this feature. I have struggled with WP headers for a while. This has changed everything.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you, Martin! :)

  • Stefan H says:

    That sounds great and I hope the theme builder will coming soon, because I just started building my blog. It would be great to combine themes and landingpage in near future better than it is now.

  • Josh Q says:

    Why is it that I can never replicate that correct spacing between the logo (as an image) and the text? They seem to be in the same column.

    No matter how I place the image and text, they are always in 2 columns.

    Cheers.

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      I can’t visualize the problem you’re describing. Could you please open a support ticket and add a screenshot?

  • Jeremy B says:

    Shane –

    After inspecting the header options I have a few questions:
    1. I couldn’t find an option to change the color of the menu tabs or modify the hover color, will that be available?
    .
    2. Will the “top level menu” effects be options in the editor or strictly on templates only (ie. The underlining and color change on hover effects)

    3. I notice that the underlining on drop-down menus is off center.

    Things I’d like to see added:
    1. Someone mentioned it but I also agree: collapse on down-scroll, open on up-scroll header as seen here https://www.meliorclinics.co.uk/flexible-affordable-payment-plans/ (This would be similar to the Minus theme I suppose) Except, I like how it is smooth and not snappy.

    2. A side fly-in menu would be nice.

    Besides the header, I would like to request a few other features I would love to have at my fingertips.

    Both come from the eliminator.
    1. I really like the ability to have the ken burns effect on a slider or page section function. I know you have disagreed with the conversion factors of sliders before but this would be nice as a visual background/page section element.

    2. A Flip Box and other stylization options found here: https://elementor.com/pro-v120-flip-box/

    3. The page section stylization is nice to: https://elementor.com/v130-shape-divider/

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      Thank you for your feedback, Jeremy!

      A1. I’m not sure what you mean by “menu tabs”, but in principle, every component of the menu should be styleable in Thrive Architect.

      A2. These effects can be applied only on the custom menu.

      A3. Is that when there is a drop-down indicator or in general?

      B1. We’re working on this.

      B2. You can set the menu to “hamburger” and choose off-screen left or right for the menu to fly in from the side.

      C1. I don’t see a good enough reason in terms of conversion payoff to invest the resources to build something like this.

      C2. To me, it seems that flip boxes are a bad idea in a world where the trend is towards pointerless screens. They disadvantage mobile users.

      C3. We have such a feature already. You can learn more about fancy dividers here.

      • Jeremy B says:

        Shane –

        A1. I found the setting to change menu drop down colors

        A2. I still do not see an option to control the hover color of menus
        Please refer to the video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ybay5M2qH1Bin2szeMR_FE5qoBXORZ6h/view?usp=sharing

        A3. Yes, that is when there is a drop down indicator… while the underline is centered in the colum it looks kinda funny as it is not centered on the text its self. This is a bit Trivial but is something I noticed. Having width adjustability may be good.

        B1. Good To know!
        B2. Thank you I located the hamburger setting.

        C1 and C2. Understandable. I’ve located some third-party flip box alternatives. Since consumers are driven by emotion and visual stimulation I believe it to be valuable as it conveys a more advanced functionality which may result in a more positive brand appeal. As for the pointer-less screens argument, I understand. I would probably make these items not available on mobile or tablet devices. Reserving them for a PC display.

        C3. Thanks! I found that… you guys release things so often I overlooked it. This is great!

        ——

        Additional Suggestions/Questions

        D1. A sitewide header will be available with the theme builder is that correct? Any ETA on that?

        ….I need this as I use a MLS Realty software that dynamically creates URL strings… so in the current state, the custom landing page headers do not apply to this use case due to the MLS working on a theme level.

        D2. A Woocommerce shopping cart icon button would be nice as the current cart button is very intrusive and not attractive. Drop in woo products option where you can change formatting and filter by author, category, or tag would be cool too.

        ——-

        To that end. Thank you for the great products. Thrive has been a huge asset in helping me grow my business. Truly invaluable.

  • Anders C says:

    Can I export the headers and footers to another WP site that is also using Thrive Architect?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      We don’t have an export/import for this feature yet, sorry.

  • Bernhard R says:

    How do you remove a Header from a page, once it was added?

    • Shane Melaugh says:

      You hover over it and delete it, as you would any other element on the page. :)

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